LOS ANGELES (CBS) — A protester with the Occupy Los Angeles movement near City Hall was caught on camera advocating what he called “bloody” and “violent means” to advance the cause of the nearly month-old protests.

In a video posted on YouTube on Oct. 2, an unnamed speaker rejects another speaker’s call for a nonviolent protest.

“No, my friend,” he said. “The French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.”

The protester also took aim at one of the most iconic political leaders of the 20th century.

“Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us…India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum property,” he said.

“So ultimately, the bourgeoisie won’t go without violent means,” he continued, at which point someone in the crowd shouted, “Revolution!”

The protester then ended his speech with “Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”

The Occupy protests have spread rapidly across the U.S., including the group at City Hall in downtown LA along with Orange County and Venice offshoots.

One recent gathering in New York City saw demonstrators chanting, “You can have sex with animals!”

The LA City Council is expected to vote on a measure Wednesday that would voice official support for the protesters.

Comments (38)
  1. Alpha Kenny Juan says:

    This guy fled Iran (his accent sounds Persian) for the freedom to speak as he pleases in the United States, and now he’s advocating that our freedoms be taken from us through a violent revolution by the proletariat? Why doesn’t he try reforming Iran before he spews his radical-Communist garbage here in the United States? This guy is undermining the nonviolent message that the vast majority of the Occupy L.A. protesters adhere to.

    There are plenty of nonviolent means to achieve true change; boycotts, massive withdrawal of our funds from commercial banks and into credit unions; petitions that demand that insurance companies and pension funds withdraw from the stock market; strikes, and many other nonviolent means.

  2. Karen says:

    Comparing France at the time of the revolution to modern capitalistic revolution is ridiculous. I think the bank withdrawal makes a lot more sense. Violence should never be the answer. Hurting their pocketbooks is the only way to get our message across.

  3. larrylove1948 says:

    Goodman sold out our revolution for a cash settlement. How much is this one worth or going to bring in to whoever.

  4. John Pelligrini says:

    These are the kinds of ideas that endorsed by our city fathers, that’s where the revolution should begin, kick those idiots on Spring out on their ass.

  5. RM says:

    Whoever wrote this is an idiot! First of all, “Ghandi” means “a person with big butt” and it was “Gandhi” who was the Indian freedom fighter. Do people posting “NEWS” here on CBS not pay attention to detail or are they complacent in being ignorant? Utterly deplorable!

    1. bounce says:

      >> is 600 million people living in maximum property

      Hey, it passed the spellcheck…

    2. brainwashedtool says:

      Nice try, but we can decide for ourselve on which “Ghandi” he means and it isn’t your lame explanation.

      1. Guapi says:

        I guess that means you prefer a big booty…

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  6. Ya lost me says:

    At the end of his speech “Long live Socialism” followed by cheers…

    If that didn’t just completely annihilate any smidge of credibility the protestors had then nothing will.

    I was waiting to pass judgment on these people until their positions became a little more clearer…With that speech and reaction? They are the enemy.

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  7. Ghandi G says:

    Is that the Poorman, standing next to the dude?

  8. Brad G. says:

    “Karen” speaks the truth. What’s interesting to me is that this guy’s remarks became a news item at all. In any large group of protesters, there are likely to be some extremist remarks; there were plenty from Tea Party protesters. But the corporate media seizes upon remarks made by some OWS protesters because they’re desperately trying to delegitimize and trivialize the movement. I’m almost 70, and in my opinion OWS is the most important and promising movement since WWII. It’s important because it identifies America’s greedy “ruling class” as the root of our financial and social inequality, and it speaks in a rational, fact-based way. This is in sharp contrast to the simplistic slogans spouted by the irrational, evangelical, racist, red-necks that populate the Tea Party.

  9. cynibun says:

    Are these people promoting murder and assaulting people for their wealth?

    Excuse me, why aren’t these people arrested?

    1. Guapi says:

      Good point cynibun.
      Unfortunately, the President and Madame Pelosi (among others) are supporting their cause because they want their own “TEA Party”.
      What a contrast!!!

  10. Buzz says:

    Beware of darkness. Out ranks have been infiltrated by deep undercover government operatives. Some may promote violence and socialism as a way to discredit our movement. Suspect anyone who is secrative about their background and current employment status.

    1. Buzzoff says:

      Uh yeah, and you guys could have booed in rejection instead you embraced his rhetoric with cheers.

      Or were secret operatives holding guns to everyone off camera forcing them to clap while cleaver audio editing cut out the boos?

      That one speech coupled with your appalling reaction will be played out across America tonight.

      You lose.

    2. Sue says:

      Yes, this is true. But Occupy LA needs to KICK OUT this guy and the others like him, rather than allowing them to start their own ludicrous Committees.

  11. 87928s4 says:

    Your word, “cleaver”, implies violence.

  12. Brainwashedtool says:

    Thank you liberal left for such a fine example you are endorsing!

  13. 87928s4 says:

    The conservative right endorses a tacit racism, is anti-education, anti-science, anti-environment, pro-corporate, and believes in a right-wing “god” who approves of capital punishment and war. If it were’t so tragic it would be funny.

  14. Bob Theduck says:

    A majority of posts on the occupy crowds own web sites talk of socialism. They are not the 99% they claim to be, they are the 20% losers and college instructors. They are a bunch of children who have never had a job and are complaining that they can not get a decent job with their expensive degrees in film making and basket weaving. They are the people too stupid to look at socialist countries and see that 10% unemployment would be normal, and 20% to 30% of 18 to 25 year olds are unemployed. They are the ones who can not see Greece, Italy, Spain,and many other European countries having worse finanical problems, yet they are almost all socialist.

  15. Bob Theduck says:

    Yes, let’s stop corporate election funding……… while we continue to let unions buy every election in this state.

    If you want to stop corporate funding, stop the union funding.

  16. Despite the tireless demonstrations of the Sharron Angle, Allan West, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin of this world that violence in politics is the monopoly of the conservatives, it is just impossible to contain angry morons within the ideological limits of the Republican party. There will always be people to carry the belief that violence, from verbal abuse to the second amendment remedy, is necessary, no matter what their political allegiance are.

  17. John says:

    When you talk about destruction, don’t you know that you can count me out.

  18. hsl says:

    this person does not represent the majority or even the MINORITY at Occupy Los Angeles. I’ve been an organizer for 3 weeks. This is a CBS/Major Media tactic to make us all look crazy, when in fact the message is clear: Corporations are manipulating our government with money. You all know this. Get a grip.

  19. hsl says:

    Further: The man in question was a member of Answer Coalition, an anti-war organization not committed to nonviolence in the same way that Occupy Los Angeles is. Many of the people around him clapping are part of the same organization, which visited us on the 1st day of the occupation.

    Now if only CBS news were able to do reporting.

    1. Sue says:

      Okay so then DO NOT LEt ANSWER or any of those groups VISIT. DO NOT LET THESE CLOWNS SPEAK on Occupy LA space. GET SMART>>>>!

    2. Sue says:

      ANSWER is NOT committed to nonviolence, period. ANSWER is a violent, hate-filled terrorist organization masquerading as an “activist” group.

  20. Brandon says:

    Such a sad attempt at journalism, but great example of spinning a story. If you go down to city hall and talk to people (people being plural, or “more than one”) you will see that there is a WIDE spectrum of opinions, and ones of socialism and “bloody revolutions” are most certainly in the minority, and this journalist clearly picked the one looney-tune with a megaphone. Don’t believe the spin, go down and see for yourself, the vast majority of people there strongly believe in non-violence and are clear at articulating that. If you don’t believe me, check with the LAPD, who have been in constant communication with the occupiers and have released statements saying that the protesters are peaceful and they will be leaving them alone, AND the city council passed a resolution officially recognizing the occupiers and supporting them. PLEASE go down and see for yourself. This is about taking corporate money and influence out of politics so that we ALL can have a fair say in OUR democracy, and other than that, you will find that there are many different people down there with many different opinions regarding all other issues. We are not overthrowing a democracy, we are trying to re-instate a democracy. Please check it out for yourself before formulating an opinion, and ask yourself what side of history will you be on

  21. Sue says:

    Occupy LA — I have been warning everyone at Occupy LA that people like this man would show up to incite violence and/or make all of them look like fools. Someone said this speaker is with ANSWER org, and brought his own people to cheer for him

    OCCUPY LA NEEDS to take control of their own space and NOT let just anyone show up to speak, blast music, or what have you. Occupy LA is losing credibility by not taking control and making sure people on their turf are with their protest.

    It is REAL HARD to get rid of someone — after all — it is CIty Hall, and not owned by Occupy LA. But you MUST find a way. Racist, violent, hateful people cannot be a part of it. A line MUST be drawn.

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