‘Dream Act’ Opponents Corral Signatures From ‘Black Friday’ Shoppers

SAN BERNARDINO (CBS) — A grassroots effort to repeal a controversial law that makes undocumented students in California eligible for financial aid headed to the Inland Empire on Friday.

Opponents of AB 131 — more popularly known as the California Dream Act — collected signatures at the Black Friday “Park N Sign” at the Upland Colonies Crossroads shopping center.

The event is just one of several scheduled statewide through January as local anti-illegal immigration advocates seek to gather the minimum 505,000 signatures needed to file their petition with the state.

Groups such as We the People California’s Crusader and Stop AB 131 are getting support from public officials like Republican Rep. Tim Donnelly of Hesperia and even radio shock jocks John Kobylt and Kenneth Chiampou of the “John and Ken Show”.

Donnelly told the San Bernardino Sun he expects the group to amass over 800,000 signatures before the Jan. 6 deadline.

Despite growing opposition to the bill, officials in the local labor movement have expressed their support for a bill that critics allege rewards illegal behavior.

“We stand with the young people to be able to have a right to higher education regardless of their immigration status,” said Maria Elena Durazo of the L.A. County Labor Federation.

  • tatytay

    why they should have it so easy when citizen or legal residents have to deal with cuts and very high fees, they should pay full price. like other students from another countries with student visa they have to pay a lot.

    • Michael J. McDermott

      tatytay, they do not have it so easy. Illegal or not, they are still residents. And, just for a second, forget about the word “illegal”. Do you realize what these people go through in their own countries? It is hell like you have never experienced and probably never will experience, thanks to the United States. If these people have the ambition and the ability to go to college, why deny this opportunity to them? They’ll pay it back. Think if it were you, hungry and desperate.

      • RON


        It would be nice if we, here in the U.S.A. could afford to continue helping everyone in the world that needs help, BUT WE CAN’T !!!

        There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to give financial support to those who have come here illegally or their ANCHOR babies, when we have 1000’s and 1000’s of HOMELESS LEGAL VETERANS and HOMELESS SINGLE VETERAN MOM’S that can’t find jobs, but WANT TO WORK.


      • Michael J. McDermott

        Ron, you’re a F@G!

      • Ron

        M.J. McDermott, for someone who wallows in VERBOSITY(your reply to Sophie), it is amazing that all you could say in reply to my call for HELP for OUR HOMELESS U.S. VETERANS was 4 words, that was a feeble attempt at PROJECTING your LIFESTYLE unto me.

      • Michael J. McDermott

        Gee, where’s Rabbi Ron?

      • Jose

        Michael J. McDermott – My Mexican brother we got to go beat up some little jews. No time for you to try to sound white.

    • Michael J. McDermott

      Also Ron, you are really FULL of hot air. You must either work for channel 9 news or you are a politician. Maybe you are really Kai Goldberg using a different name.

      • Ron

        ANTI-AMERICAN MIKE McDermott, now that we know that you are GAY and HATE YOURSELF, hate intelligent black Jewish men and love all things ILLEGAL, I guess we can ignore all your following comments.

      • Michael J. McDermott

        To: Ron;
        Gee Ron, you’ve been right all along. How could I have possibly been so stupid.
        I finally understand what you’ve been saying all along. If I understand correctly, you are saying that “one should NEVER put a poor hungry baby IN FRONT OF OUR U.S. VETERANS, who have FOUGHT for our FREEDOM !!!! (in your own words Ron)”
        Folks, meet Ron. The embodiment of true freedom in America.

      • Michael J. McDermott

        Oh, Ron, you are tho intelligent.

      • Michael J. McDermott

        Gee, it looks like “BIG RON” has nothing to say. And I thought he was so vocal with his “Very American” outlook on the situation. Hmm. . .

    • Michael J. McDermott

      To: Jose;
      You got it right Bro’! ! ! I hear you.

  • Travis

    It would be nice if the article would list a website where everyone could sign. I have paid taxes to support our education system for 21 years, and there is not enough financial aid available for contributing citizens. When illegals have to start showing their W-2s or their parents W-2s to determine eligibility as I have to, then perhaps I’ll feel differently about this issue.

  • Sophie

    The state of California is already contributing a huge amount to educate the children of illegal immigrants. $25,000 to $50,000 is how much California already subsidizes each of these students’ college education by giving them the state-resident tuition discounts at community colleges, CSU and UC colleges. And taxpayers have paid up to $104,000 for each of the children of illegal immigrants to attend our public K-12 schools ($8,000 per year multiplied by up to 13 years).

    The problem is that illegal immigrants as a group pay very little in taxes. Many work under the table and thus do not pay any state or federal income tax. Even those that do declare their income…most are in low-income jobs and thus pay little or no taxes. The small amounts they contribute through sales tax and property tax pay only a small fraction of the costs of educating their dependents and the other social services that they benefit from. The rest of us taxpayers must then pay the difference, which results in either higher taxes for us or cuts to other programs that benefit our citizens (such as reduced funding to our K-12 schools and public colleges, closures of state parks and reduced financial assistance to our disabled citizens).

    Now our state wants to give $40 million dollars in Cal Grants and other taxpayer funded financial aid for this group to attend college every year? Where is the money going to come from? This will only encourage more illegal immigrants to move to California — which is something that our state simply cannot afford.

    • Michael J. McDermott

      Sophie, regardless of whether they are paid less, they still pay their fair percentage according to the law. Also, if given the opportunity, they would be glad, in fact delighted to pay even more if that were possible.

      OK, we have a border. Hungry people on one side and our great USA on the other. If we are so opposed to illegal crossings we should have made certain that no one ever crossed it.
      BUT, we didn’t. So these hungry and determined people found a way to penetrate it to the tune of 12,000,000 heads. What do we do now? Don’t know? That’s a lot of people, right? What happened?

      Well, what happened is that the government of the once great USA, turned a blind eye for about 30 years. What’s the solution?
      Well, I’ll tell you this, for a country that is supposed to be so humane and so human rights conscious, we can not possibly just deport them, or let them starve to death. We’re the United States, right. Bush had one fair, humane, and workable solution, and that was to give them a temporary workers status card, which would have had them paying their ever important fair share of taxes back into the system. But, nooooooo, that was blocked. Remember the word HUMANE, ok?
      What about those darned illegal Armenians, BUT, nobody talks about that so you don’t either, right?
      I will say this also; If we are going to blow umpteen billion dollars on Iraq, how can we simply sit here and decide that we can not help these hard working, generous but hungry people, with little babies to feed, not less? C’mon, you’ve got to be kidding? But, again Bush’s Temporary Workers Status Card wasn’t good enough.
      Please, stop and think for a minute about how rotten these people have it in their own countries. It is hell.
      Be realistic. They weren’t just sitting around the kitchen table one day and became suddenly struck by the notion of: “HEY, let’s go to the United States and enter illegally”.
      They’re here because they NEEEEED help. They NEEEEED food. Can you imagine what it is like being without food or seeing your children hungry? Do you really feel you should simply deny them these opportunities like education because you and your friends feel they are some second rate ape from another country that you simply don’t care for?
      I could almost vomit while the media, not to mention these stupid politicians, continue to portray them as invaders, criminals, illegals, etc. OK, I forgot you’ve got one token one turned gang member being endlessly looped in the media. OK. You win.
      But, realize it or not, they are hard working, decent people despite the media.
      Their predicament is literally LIFE AND DEATH, but their cause is being ignored by the world. Not only is their own country not willing to help but even the big and powerful USA can’t even stop and understand why they even do what they do, and these are the very people who need the USA most. It’s a shame and I really do feel sorry for them. I wish them victory because they really deserve it.

      • Jose

        Look at you with your white name and Big Boy words. You don’t want to be Mexican No More.

      • Hans

        did it all RX’d, including the dead hang PUs in 34.21. I think the pull ups took me about 18 of the 34 mnuites.and I realized my love for bacon wrapped sweet potato. Thanks B!

  • g. forte

    Durazo is morally, legally and ethically wrong. Illegal immigrants don’t have a right to an American education. She is viewing the issue stupidly.

  • Sophie

    Go to stopAB131.com to get petitions to put The Dream Act on the 2012 so that taxpayers can repeal this new entitlement program for illegal immigrants.

    This is a grassroots effort. Volunteers will mail you petitions — get a few and ask your friends and family to sign.

    Or, go to http://www.facebook.com/StopTheDreamAct to find out where local signature gathering events are being held (so that you can sign — or volunteer to help!)

    • Travis

      Sophie it seems a little unfair that one could support the Dream Act online….sign their name and even add a comment. However there is no such accommodation for those wishing to repeal the Dream Act.

      • Linda

        Travis it seems you read Sophies post wrong, it is to REPEAL the “dream act” not to support it.

  • Travis

    Linda, I think you didn’t finish reading my response. I was complaining that you could go online and support the dream act by signature, but in order to have it overturned you must leave your house and go physically sign something. I am not in support of the “dream act”

  • Michael J. McDermott

    Oh, Ron; Again, you’ve hit the nail right on the head.

  • Michael J. McDermott

    To: Ron; Please accept my apologies.
    I should really be addressing you as “BIG BRAVE RON.”

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