Jewish Leaders Express Concern Over Anti-Semitic Messages In Occupy Movement

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — The “Occupy Wall Street” movement is now global with protests popping up in cities across the country and around the world, including here in the Southland.

Two people were arrested and two others were cited this weekend at an “Occupy Long Beach” event when protesters refused to leave a public park during prohibited hours.

Police warned more than 70 activists that they weren’t allowed to camp overnight, a sign that the “Occupy Wall Street” movement is growing, despite the fact that it doesn’t have specific demands or a clear agenda.

Hundreds of protesters remain camped out on the lawn of City Hall in downtown Los Angeles, where things have been much more peaceful.

There were concerns Monday night from Jewish leaders that some of the protesters were expressing anti-Semitic messages. Witnesses say they’ve seen demonstrators carrying signs that read, “Jews Control Wall Street” and similar statements circulating online.

“I think that the Zionist Jews that are running these big banks and the Federal reserve, which is not run by the federal government, need to be run out of this country,” said protester Shirley MacAllister.

Many Occupy movement members went on camera to condemn those sentiments, stressing that they were not representative of the whole.

One woman at the Occupy L.A. site said, “We don’t support those people. We don’t endorse their statements.”

Another protester, C.J. Minster, said, “It saddens me that only controversy gets people interested in our movement.”

Internationally, demonstrators have been participating in the “Occupy London Stock Exchange” for three days.

  • IrritatedVoter

    Great movement! How about we start an Occupy Gray Matter campaign?

  • rjsmitty

    Gains momentum ? HaHaHaHa now that is funny !

    • Whisky…Tango… Foxtrot

      This whole thing is a joke being pushed by the Left wing media; that is why it’s being embraced by Obama and the Unions.

      • Delores Rockett Collins

        You dont even know what you are talking about, your only parrot what you have heard on the news, which is owned by the money that represnts wall street. Get your head out of the sand and stop being an ass to people.

  • Ameri

    I am going at the start of Novembre to the LA protest. My voice shall be herd. ANd when I tell you what the Judges are doing to the disabled will blow you away. And Congress wont do anything about it. To take a sike persons medical letter and to throw it in the trash and tell’s me to shut up when I am defending myself is insane. Judges are getting paid 200k a year to deny Americas any help. That is why American is dying. To give food stamps and welfare to illegals and not white Americans is racist and unconstitutional. Overthrow the Government!

  • john

    how about occupy a job?

    • jane

      How about they stop sending our jobs overseas so that we have jobs to occupy, you imbecile.

      • Elisha Kramer

        well jane! where are you – NO RESPONSE? fu *ing idiot

      • Whisky…Tango… Foxtrot

        Jane ….You stupid C-U-N-T
        Who are they and why are our jobs going overseas?
        Jobs are going overseas due to overregulation, high taxes, Unions and an incompetent workforce here in America.

      • J. Dunphy

        Elisha / Whisky … Tango … Foxtrot

        Are the engineering jobs leaving the country for the same reason? Incompetence? Really? If that is so, then how, pray tell, do you explain the ability of those “incompetent” engineers – the ones whose jobs are being outsourced – to give America that technological supremacy that right wingers had so much fun talking about, just a few years ago?

        Now here is reality, as opposed to the BS you’ve been getting out of Fox News: the jobs have been flowing to lower income countries with softer currency, because tarriffs and other trade barriers have been removed. At least, they’ve been removed on our side, unilaterally at times. This means that the American worker is being asked to compete, on a cost basis, with counterparts overseas who can pay their rent and buy groceries in soft currency – something American workers don’t get to do. Yet.

        Let scatterbrained policy continue to devastate the economies of the US and much of the western world, and in a few decades’ time the Dollar might very well become a soft currency, uncovertable into the Yen. But if you’re hoping that jobs will start flowing back here from China, back to an America in which we’ll get to see people with their stomachs bloating up, dying of starvation in the streets, you’re awfully trusting. What makes you think that the Chinese government won’t just raise the barriers, nationalize the factories, and refuse to allow companies and their equipment to leave, the moment they’ve acquired our industries? You think that can’t happen because the government in Beijing is just so sweet and nice?

        Google this: Tianamen Square. And then join us in the real world.

        Comparisons between supposedly excessive US wages and third world wages tend to be nonsensical, because the wrong things are being compared. So many dollars buys one so many rupees if one goes into a bank to exchange currency, so on this basis, a US salary of so many dollars is argued to be equivalent to an Indian salary of far more rupees than somebody in India with the same job title is likely to see. But unless what we’re doing with our money is burning it to keep warm, that’s not a relevant standard. What matters isn’t how much paper we have, but what we, realistically, can buy with it.

        As one of America’s many unemployed engineers, I’ve gotten to hear from an Indian engineer – one who really didn’t seem to know much about engineering, relatively speaking – interrupt his outpouring of Anti-American schadenfreude with sobbing about how hard life was for him, on the Indian equivalent of $20,000 per year. He could only afford a 4 story home – most of us would call that a palace – and his servant only came in once per week. On the other days, our boy, whose technical expertise did not seem to reach far enough to allow him to understand Freshman college physics – had to pick up after himself. The horror. The horror.

        Try buying even a Midwestern crackerbox on $20,000 a year in the US. Lots of luck. While even the $6000 per year that is my peak yearly income to date – as it is for many of my classmates, courtesy of a job market that evaporated just in time to not be there for us on graduation – would probably let me eat quite well if I could buy my food in India, how am I to do that? Am I to take a 12 hour plane trip, every time I go to my my morning yogurt? Is there some special on Priceline that I’ve been missing, because I have to tell you – this plan would sound kind of expensive, and failing that, I and the other overpaid Americans are left paying bills we really can’t avoid at American rates, not Indian rates.

        But even this doesn’t do full justice to the absurdity of the remarks often made in defense of so-called free trade. How is anybody to compete on a cost basis with labor in places where the population is already starving without being reduced to starvation himself – even if, miraculously, he could start buying food in the developed world at third world prices? For that matter, how are free men to compete on a price basis with slave labor? In case you’ve done as so many neocons conveniently do and forgotten this little detail, the Chinese use slave labor in their factories, dissidents making excellent slaves in a totalitarian state.

        The impossibility of that is something that should not be unfamiliar to anybody who grew up in the West. Were you awake at any point in History class when the Roman Empire was being discussed? Do you remember the impact of the institution of slavery on the fortunes of the plebians? Something that left Rome with those mobs of destitute citizens, to be placated with “bread and circuses”. Nice euphemism, by the way – cooking fuel ended up being one of the luxuries the common man couldn’t afford. What he subsisted on wasn’t bread, it was pulmentum – uncooked grain, pounded to a paste with water. Like eating raw bread dough for dinner, every night, while hoping that one didn’t die of dysentery, because clean water was another luxury the common man couldn’t afford.

        And people like you want to return the Western World to those days. I’m sure you’ll try to deny it, but to support that which made the misery inevitable makes any denial of a desire to see that misery return ring hollow in the ears of anybody with even the most rudimentary ability to reason.

        Did a few antisemites find their way into the Occupy Wall Street crowd? I don’t doubt it. As a Jew with an “un-Jewish” surname, I know just how common anti-semitism is, and how easy so many people find it to use us as scapegoats anytime something goes wrong. It’s a 2000 year old story. But a few scattered conspiracy theorists in a crowd that is expressing some well founded discontent causes me far less concern than does the more respectable brand of lunacy people like you have been espousing. Sending our industrial base to a totalitarian state with a history of never missing a chance to engage in military aggression whenever that aggression had a chance to succeed? Look up the ethnic minorities of China, and find out how they became minorities, and then take a good, long look at what’s happening in Tibet. You want to hand the ultimate, potentially world shattering power granted by the industrial capability of what was the world’s only remaining superpower, in exchange for what? Short term profit? The chance to make nice with your fellow wingnuts by paying lip service to your own version of political correctness? Where’s the upside to this?

        I’d say something about a memorable incident following the Tianamen square crackdown, in which some young man was taught the errors of his political ways by having his eyes seared out with a woodburner, but as I’ve heard neocons seriously argue in support of the use of torture as a tool of interrogation, I wonder if that would even matter to you. Or if you even have anything happening upstairs. Here it is, 2011, and all you can seem to do is rehash Ronald Reagan’s talking points from the election of 1980, as if 31 years of history hadn’t even happened – including the Reagan and Bush years, themselves, and the deregulation they brought. Did you even begin to have a thought in your head before you sat down to write that nonsense?

        I guess some questions answer themselves.

    • TT

      good point :…. I mean I understand what they are doing is important to them – but what I dont understand is why they are there and not at work -because if you are not at work – you have a job- its to look for work …. which still means unless you have a laptop and Y-Fi …. you cant be out protesting 24/7… And no employer is going to give you time off to go and have your voice be heard – unless its making them money…..

      • Amerian

        TT, I can’t understand why God allowed a moron like you to be born. What a waste!!

      • J. Dunphy

        @TT: “because if you are not at work – you have a job- its to look for work”

        And how long does somebody have to look before you’ll graciously grant him the right to face facts, and see that his search has been futile? Is there really any such thing as a patriotic duty to pound one’s head into the wall, forever?

        Here’s a wild idea for you – until you have an original thought of your own to share, you have a societal duty to sit down and shut the f . u . c . k up. Like Elisha Kramer above, all you did was dust off somebody else’s ancient talking points. In your case, you rehashed the standard pep talk given to job applicants by a generation of “recruiters” who never can be seen doing much recruiting. Your contribution to the discussion was that of a parrot, mindlessly echoing what somebody else had to say, showing no understanding of the context in which he had said it.

        Elisha played the Fox News game of rerunning the 1980 presidential campaign. You, on the other hand, have taken something that was written by a hack, who was then plagiarized by other hacks, about how one supposedly would find work in a market in which entry level jobs were practically non-existent, and turned it into a perverse call for the economically disenfranchised to engage in some sort of penance for their sinful poverty by spending every waking moment in a futile pursuit of something that isn’t there, even after experience has taught them that it is futile.

        I’d ask you if you remembered Einstein’s definition of insanity: “doing the same thing over and over, thinking that eventually one will get a different result” or words to that effect, but I can’t really picture you reading anything that the man ever wrote. So, I’ll remind you of a simpler quote – “if you don’t say anything, nobody will know how stupid you are”. A little late in your case, but you can at least refrain from making matters worse.

        But you probably don’t know what the word “refrain” means, do you?

  • Mike

    If there was an Occupy City Hall / L.A. City Council movement, I’d support it.

    • jane

      Occupy L.A. is in front of the city hall. Have you been living under a rock?

  • Daniel Corsca

    You want the protesters to stop “whining”? Then HELP OUT. Don’t sit there berating people. How is that possibly going to make the situation better?

    The America I was brought up to believe in isn’t one where you watch people fall down and then kick them for wearing the wrong shoes. It’s supposed to be a place where we extend a helping hand. It’s where people can say – yeah, I made some bad decisions and I’m in trouble – and other people will say, yeah, that happened to me once, too, how can I help?

    • John

      If the protestors bothered to do something useful like but stock in these corporations they might actually get something done instead of taking dumps on police cars and calling it. they have this wonderful thing called stock market where you can buy part of a company. Get enough people with the same ideas buying stock and you can change how the company is run. But no, that’s too logical and works within the system. We’ll complain and camp out to effect change instead.

      The only good thing about these goobers is that as long as they’re there, they’re not offering applications for jobs that sensible people will get instead.

  • IrritatedVoter

    Help yourself! You have the power to control your own destiny. So if you want to wait for the rest of us to help you, good luck!

  • Jerry Frey

    An unscripted reality show, Occupy America is a populist movement in the tradtion of the nineteenth century Cross of Gold. Speculation (George Soros; hedge funds), long or short, oil futures, de-regulation, neo-liberalism, benefits the 1 percent connected class with no social benefit. Banks once organized and allocated capital in order to produce wealth, economic expansion, that benefited the many rather than the few. Globalists know no national loyalty and are detached from their nations.

    Get the $oney out of politics. Campaign contributions are the nexus of corruption in the capitol. Reduce the amount of money involved in re-election, which really is the name of the game, by promulgating free air time during elections. Keep the current system for primaries.

    History repeats itself: no leadership, no vision, no perspective, chickens have come home to roost…Selfishness.

    For example, there was an imbalance in trade between the Western and Eastern halves of the Roman Empire, along with high taxation. Consider: the government lost control of its borders — Goths, Franks, Suevi, Alans — and society experienced moral decay.

    NeilSalemMA Why does all this remind me of France in the 1780s and 1790s?

    1) 1780s – The economy of France is in crisis. The civil population is poor and becoming poorer and they are starving.
    2) 1789 – The storming of the Bastille – the revolution begins
    3) 1791 – The King and Queen flee for their safety.
    4) 1792 – The King and Queen are arrested.
    5) 1793 – The guillotine – King Louis XVI and Queen Marie Antoinette are beheaded.
    6) 1793 – 1794 – the Reign of Terror. Over 16,000 people are beheaded.

    Our system of free enterprise is a corrupt oligarchy of the wealthy that drives more and more middle class Americans into poverty, even while the very rich get much richer. As happened over 200 years ago in France, the people will eventually rise up.

  • enough

    shirley macallister for president

  • 87928s4

    This is an important and justified protest that will not be silenced by the corporate media or right-wing imbeciles. During the past 30 years, the lie of “free market capitalism” has become exposed: capital always chases the cheapest labor available in the world. No American worker –regardless of how productive he is– can compete under this financial model, which was designed to benefit the rich, multi-national corporations, and Wall Street. We need a new democratic –instead of plutocratic– financial model. The majority of Americans will no longer tolerate having their lives controlled by greedy sociopathic plutocrats and multi-national corporations who have no loyalty for or fiduciary responsibility to America. This is an historic moment, and no corporation, religious, or ethnic group is going to succeed in distracting Americans from the terrible economic and social inequality and injustice they are now experiencing until economic and social justice return to all Americans.

    • John

      Then choose to spend more elsewhere or do without and do not use their products. Your argument is flawed because the only reason the corporations have power is because the people choose to give them money for goods and services. Take away their sales and they’re nothing. Complaining about their power when you give it to them them by purchasing things from them is the height of stupidity.

    • Bandit

      Then tell Obummer to stop spending all the money in the world for his FAILED polices and his FAILED agenda. the pres. that this country was and is and always will be a failure.

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  • Doug

    We don’t want to leave this country to take those jobs John. Have you been asleep the last few years ???

  • Costa Mesa resident

    Shirley MacAllister was planted there by Andrew Breitbart and the tea party movement.

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  • Al-Qaida

    The JDL or AIPAC is behind this stunt.

  • shalom

    and so what if we owen banks? We worked hard enough and we earned it , if you dont like it , well,dont buy our bagels and dont watch our movies

    • ddfsd

      Shalom? It is disturbing to see someone post what you have posted and cannot even spell the three letter word “own”. Our future was stolen based on lies and greed. The poor and homeless are ostracized based on their thoughts and opinions. How many poor are in our prisons? How many jobs are there out there for them? Corruption of course never fits into the picture or could it be the lack of education that causes this misconception? Hello????

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