Judge Denies Giovanni Ramirez’s Request To Be Released From Prison

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — A parolee, who police first suspected in the beating of San Francisco Giants’ fan Bryan Stow, will remain in state prison.

A judge denied Giovanni Ramirez’s request for an early release. In June, a parole board sentenced Ramirez to ten months in prison after determining that he had violated his parole by having “access to a firearm.”

The gun was found buried underneath some clothes in a hamper of the apartment where Ramirez was arrested on May 22.

Ramirez’s attorney, Jose Romero, filed a petition to overturn the board’s decision. He says he is disappointed with the judge’s decision.

“Some how, some way Giovanni Ramirez became the individual who allegedly had access to that firearm which I think is completely ridiculous and unfounded,” Romero told CBS2.

According to sources, undercover surveillance also found other parole violations, including possible drug dealing.

Romero plans to appeal the judge’s decision.

Ramirez was never charged in the Stow beating and was eventually exonerated in the case.

  • Suzanne Learned Camarillo

    You may need to get your facts straight. From all I have read, there was a firearm in the home in which he lives & other people live there too. He was NOT in actual possession of the firearm on his person. A parole/probation violation nonetheless.

    • uhon

      Yawnnnnnnn. Obviously you don’t know the terms of parole.

    • Jessilyn

      Where does it say he had actual possession of it? It says he had access to it…which yes is still a violation.

      • bob

        Hang the P.o.s.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Roy

      Yes unfortunately this wrongly accused man was imprisoned for a legal loophole that allowed our “justice system” to hold him. If he did the crime this would have been a victory. Since he didn’t (which there wasn’t even any evidence that he could have) they found another way. Whomever thinks he should still be in jail has a lot to learn about the world. I hope they are in a situation where they are judged simply because they fit the descrition or for their pass indescretions (for which they have already paid for)…

  • rich

    having physical possession of it or control of it is not the point a convicted felon CAN NOT be in the same place as a gun he knew that his family knew that so no matter who the weapon ACTUALLY belongs to he was violated and that fact has nothing to do with the stow case he is not in jail for stow he is in jail for the gun and jail is where he belongs

  • JM

    The truth of the matter is this. They didn’t have anything on him for the Stow case, so they charged him with the next best thing. Parole violation. 8 months for a parolee with access to a gun. Now that in itself doesnt make sense. You look up parole violations even for testing dirty you get violated for at least 2-3 years…Think about it people…

    • wobbles

      And don’t forget the cops in Nevada are looking at him for a shooting too. He’s far from sweey and innocent. Every day he spends behind bars is a good day for civilized society.

    • Ramirez Is STILL Guilty

      @ JM – It makes perfect sense. If investigators in a case believe they have a suspect in sight, and for good reason, but they don’t have enough just yet to make an arrest, then they will try to make an arrest in whichever legal way they can. This buys them time on the bigger case they are working on. It also gives them leverage. It happens all the time and is quite legal and within the bounds of the law. After all, Ramirez DID violate his parole, didn’t he? Even Casey Anthony was aressted on another charge (financial fraud) and not for actual murder… not in the beginning. And Misty Croslin- same thing. Arrested for drugs and not the murder/disappearance of her boyfriend’s daughter. Don’t make what the cops did to Ramirez out to be a bad, illegal thing because it wasn’t.

      • Roy

        What was the good reason? Oh right he looked like a criminal. The man wasn’t even near the scene of the crime. The LAPD made the statement that they were “confident” that he was the man. OOps. You’re right it wasn’t illegal, it was just unjust.

        In the other cases you sited the suspects had actually DONE something…

      • Ramirez Is STILL Guilty

        @ Roy – The other cases I cited the defendants hadn’t yet been proven of committing the crime that the police suspected them on. So your comment about them “having done something” is totally stupid. Ramirez completely looked like the police sketch that was released. Someone called him in. The police checked him out and didn’t think his story flied. But there wasn’t much evidence from that brutal beating anyway, so arresting Ramirez on something they knew they could prove, like PAROLE VIOLATION, suited the investigators just fine. The police acted within the bounds of the law. In other words, they did nothing wrong. Mr. Ramirez, on the other hand, DID do something wrong and he wsa rightfully put in jail. Then the cops continued their investigation into the brutal beating of Mr. Stow. Just because you don’t like that Mr. Ramirez is sitting in jail on another charge does not mean he doesn’t belong there. HE DOES.

      • Roy

        @ Little person who doesn’t give a name – Funny. I will reiterate what i typed (just in case you “missed” it) I said it wasn’t illegal, but unjust. My comment on the others having done something, I meant physically committed the lesser crime (one they could prove). in parole violations they don’t have to prove guilt, right? He just happened to be in a house where there was a gun. As a side note, if his prints or any other evidence tying him to that gun were present, don’t you think that info would have been released?

        Anyway, I digressed. Everyone has an opinion. And just because you like that he’s is sitting in jail doesn’t make it just. I didn’t make anything out. I specifically stated what I thought. I didn’t say “bad” or “illegal” I said unjust. You should read more carefully before comments like “totally stupid,” dude.

      • Ramirez Is STILL Guilty

        @ Roy – Really? Resorting to name-calling? How mature. Anyways, you can bet your butt I like that Ramirez is sitting in jail. He’s a thug. A criminal. A thorn in society’s side. Why would I want someone with his rap sheet walking around MY friends and family? He’s an admitted gang member and I highly doubt that even you, his one and only supporter, would want him around your kids too. Well, I take that back. Maybe you wouldn’t mind him being around your kids. It seems your common sense has abandoned your small mind years ago. P.S. It’s dudette to you. :)

      • Roy

        Now it makes sense why you have so much fear. What’s funny is that it sounds like you think that there aren’t people around your uber intelligent friends and family that have committed crimes that they haven’t gone to jail for… I would even venture to say that some of them might have actually committed crimes. So this common sense you speak of should tell you that there are plenty of criminals around your loved ones. That’s actually neither here nor there though.

        Here’s the thing. I don’t disagree that people who commit crimes should go to jail. Our problem as a society is what happens when they get out. Send them right back? Then they get out worse than they were… If you were to objectively read what I wrote you would understand that my position is not as a supporter of the convicted felon. I am silmply pointing out the fact that you, like so many other people out there are so afraid of people who look like big bad criminals. Justice and due process…

        As for the name calling, apologies. It was late and I kind of wanted to take a cheap shot. Though I felt the desire to after the “totally stupid” remark when you clearly misqouted me and didn’t get what I was saying in the first place. Don’t be so sensitve if people can’t disagree with you…

  • John

    IT doesn’t matter that the parole violation is cut and dry, the lawyer still gets paid to try to make it look like his client should be released. WE all know the guy did violate his parole and should be behind bars for it. The upsetting part is that this is still getting media attention. He wasn’t guilty of the one thing that put him in the public eye. Forget about him and move on.

  • Joey Tomm

    I think all gang bangers and gangsta “wannabees” should be shot on site. Period.


    • Roy

      So no justice system or due process?

  • duh

    I highly approve of this article

  • Robert S.

    The POS should rot in jail anyway. Look like a “Banger” to me! Hang um High, and let um “Swing”! He “Busted” his parole! Now he be “Busted”!

    • Roy

      You sound like a paranoid schizophrenic so should you be in a mental institution? Just curious…

      • Ramirez Is STILL Guilty

        @ Roy – How do you “sound” like a paranoid schizophrenic? Just curious…

        You’re awfully sensitive about Mr. Ramirez and the way the public views him. What is he? Your brother? Your cousin? In any case, you shouldn’t get your panties in a twist about a convicted felon, who, by the way, is a suspect in a murder, totally unrelated to the Stow beating case. So pipe down, Sally.

      • Thomas

        Roy, what does your rap sheet look like? If Ramirez was arrested for this same thing and you didn’t know about it would you even care?

      • Thomas

        Haha…..I was thinking the same thing. I didnt know paranoid schizophrenics had a particular noise they make. Maybe it sounds like ” Roy…Roy…Roy”.

      • Roy

        I don’t have a rap sheet, do you? I’ve got a lot of parking tickets though. Do you feel like your “point” was proven now? The only part I care about is how people are treated in this supposedly civilized society. Is there something wrong with that? So I don’t share your “hang ’em high” attitude. You post what you want, and so will I.

        And please people get a grip. Have you ever heard of sarcasm…?

  • mike

    ROY the reason most of us think this man belongs in jail is this one he did fit the composite like it or not that is a fact. YES he truned out not guilty of that but then he was never charged with it. when they went to pick him up because he fit the composite WHICH IS PERFECTLY JUST thing to do he was found to be in the house with a gun NO he was not holding the gun but he was in the house where the gun was. side note i am a convicted felon i ONCE beat the ever loving crud out of my sisters ex who had beat her, i did not then nor do i now appologize for it he needed his tail kicked but u went down for the crime. did my time and got out and have not offended since. as a result i can not be any where near a gun. my daddy is a police officer if he comes to my place or i go to his he has to lock his weapon in the trunk of his car if im going to ride in the same car as him he has to leave it someplace that i wont be or wont go. alot of hassle for him but that is the rules that i have to follow. my point is this who ever that gun belong to weather it was this mans or someone in his familys they and he HAD TO KNOW it was against his parole AND THAT IS WHY IT IS VERY JUST that he is in jail. as i said i have not reoffended since i got out 3 years ago and i wont reoffend but trust me everytime there is a fight in my area reported and the suspect is discribed as MALE WHITE 5 FOOT 8 160 POUNDS WITH SHORT BROWN HAIR AND GREEN EYES there is a county dep on my door step with in short order checkin to see if it was me that did it.. DO I LIKE THAT heck no!!! BUT ITS THE PRICE YOU PAY when you break the law. this man IF he wanted to stay out of the can could have easy made sure that no one else brought a gun into that house maybe its not his gun maybe it was but he was in the house the gun was in the house and that is a violation so there is NOTHING UNJUST about his term and the fact he only got 8 months tells me that someone took mercy on him

    • Roy

      Mike – Duly noted. I wouldn’t have posted anything about this subject had it not been for the fact that during the time the crime was actually committed, the guy had hair. Yes of course picking him up would have been ok, but my issue is that they (the LAPD) was under pressure to get someone for the beating. He maintained his innocence the whole time and maybe fit the description at the time of arrest but not at the time of the crime. If memory serves me right he also passed a polygraph test.

      Had the same thing happened to you I would be just as disappointed in our legal system. I doubt that if you were in someone’s home and police came in and found a gun you had no knowledge of you would welcome 8 months in prison…

      You did your time and it sounds like it was a one time thing, but what happens if they are looking for a rapist? Are you ok with that kind of due process? How do you think you would bounce back into being a productive member of society after that?

      • duh

        >I would be just as disappointed in our legal system.

        How did the ‘legal’ system fail? This was Law Enforcement. After he was in custody, the legal system joined up. How you expect the legal system to turn a blind eye to the gun access by a convicted felon, just because he turned out innocent in a separate case, is beyond me.

        >police came in and found a gun you had no knowledge of

        When defendants make claims of ignorance, prosecutors, judges, and even jurors have to sort out what’s reasonable. Is it reasonable that a gun can exist in a wide open hallway of your home and you have NO knowledge of it? Sure, it’s possible, but not reasonable. Probation violation can be levied just by a preponderance of evidence. There is no criminal trial where ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ comes into play. Felons AGREE TO THIS in their terms of probation, and it’s why they are released early on probation. They agree the bar is raised for them, and the burden is ON THEM to avoid any situation that might violate them. There is no crying on probation, and I have no sympathy for him. 10 months is Easy Street to a felon who has already been institutionalized. He can just sleep through it. When he wakes up, apparently Nevada will want to be talking to him.

      • mike

        i don’t WELCOME being stoped quite frequently when crimes happen and i fit the discription but that is life I MADE THE MISTAKE that put me in jail in the first place. as i said my daddy is a cop he had a warrent issued to arrest my sisters ex of course he was not going to be the one to serve it CONFLICT OF INTREST and all that. but he had the warrent and i knew it but I CHOOSE to be the big brother and beat this dude down. and now im paying for it. i know what i can or can not do. I CAN NOT BE NEAR A GUN. I CAN NOT DRINK till my probation is over. I CAN NOT GET INTO ANY KIND OF FIGHT UNLESS I CAN PROVE REAL WELL THAT MY LIFE WAS AT RISK. so as a result i dont put my self in places where i would be at risk. i know who in my family owns gun and i also know which of my friends own one, so i dont go to their homes they come to mine. i know who in my circles drink so i do not hang with them. if i am someplace and i see someone starting static i get my white tail out of there. im sorry if i have no sympathy for someone getting poped for something they know not to do, lets assume this gun was not his, as i recall he was busted at the home of a family member but even if it was not a familys home it had to be at the least a friends house in either case he likely knew that person owns or had a gun. we all know our own family and friends and know what they are into so if he wanted to stay out of jail he needed to stay away from anyone who MIGHT put his parole at risk it might stink to have to avoid people you love or like but whats worse avoiding them or landing back in jail?? FOR ME its landing back in jail

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    […] Ramirez was eventually denied an early release. […]

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