No Paper Or Plastic? LA Shoppers Wary Of Proposed ‘Nightmare’ Ban

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — An effort to allow only reusable bags at Los Angeles grocery stores may sound like a political long-shot, but one city councilman thinks the public will eventually warm up to the initiative.

KNX 1070’s Pete Demetriou reports just the suggestion of such a ban raised the eyebrows of several Southland shoppers.

The measure introduced by City Councilman Paul Koretz would prohibit all single-use plastic and paper bags in L.A. supermarkets and would require stores to sell or provide complimentary reusable or fiber bags only or risk a fine.

Koretz said that while banning plastic bags helps reduce land and ocean pollution, the single-use paper bag still contributes significantly to the local waste stream.

Some local shoppers, however, were less than enthused about the proposal.

“I think they can find a different way to make improvements to the city,” one man said.

“It’d probably be good for the planet in the long run, but short-term I could see it being a nightmare,” another shopper said.

The measure still has to clear the Energy and Environment Committee, but proponents believe the waste reduction aspect of the bill will be a strong selling point that would leapfrog L.A. ahead of cities like San Francisco and Santa Monica in the battle against bag pollution.

  • Abe

    If Los Angeles bans plastic grocery bags, I’ll just buy my own and use them. Nobody is taking away my plastic bags. NOBODY!

    • BlueCollarCritic

      Its not the governments business telling stores or customers what they can or can not use to bag items in. This has gotten ridiculous to the point of insanity. You people in Southern California need to stand up and stop these tyrannical politicians before they move to do something seriously dangerous like telling you what you can or can;t do on your own time. Think they won’t try it? Guess again If you don;t stop them now they will continue to grab as much power and control over you as they can.

      The founding fathers setup the complex form of government we have so it would be very difficult for any one politician to do something stupid like this unless they all agreed to do something stupid. This was by design and not a mere accident when they drew up our form of government.

      Tell those little wannabe dictators in your local government to get out of your affairs!

    • Joe Blow


    • SamI

      You think cloth bags will be any healthier? Sure you can wash them but they still have boogie boos in them. As an asthmatic I know you can’t get it absolutely clean. I’ll just use my asthma pillow case. LOL.

      silly people only cost you more money…put a gun to your head society.

    • robsin

      Nothing in this state is complimentary. Everything you do here nickles and dimes you to death. Not a single store is going to offer reusable bags complimentary. It’s just another cost of doing life in California.

    • 51 Phantom

      Kalifornia can then ban food!

    • CaSam

      Absolutly correct. You put meat into a reusable bag and a few drops of juice leaks out and the bacteria grows and you contaminate everything you put in it on the next trip.
      Of course you can use the electricity and soap to wash the bags after every use, you all are going to do that right?

    • David Powell

      What bags do they think people will use for trash and recycling? Paper bags to recycle paper, plastic ones to reuse for throwing away trash. WIthout this the papers will blow away unless cardboard boxes can be scrounged – or new paper bags bought, and people will have to buy plastic trash bags more. Guess what, you’d still have plastic bags except people would be paying more for them. This idea is idiotic.

      • SamI


        You and your kind have outlived your agenda. You’ve cost us too much money…put people out of jobs…save a fish, kill a baby mob needs to STFU.

        We all know that your sort represents the minority…and we the majority are sick and tired catering to the minority.

        The table is being tipped to the other direction.

      • Jim

        David, you are not clueless, Rowwdy is. Every where this has been tried the sale of plastic trash bags has increased greatly. I use my plastic bags from the grocery store for other uses and that is a reasonable thing to do. They make good bags for small trash cans, they are excellent for wrapping food in that will go in the freezer (they prevent freezer burns), they are great for putting paint rollers in that you are going to use again so that the roller doesn’t get hard, they are good for putting my dogs poop in and there are many, many other uses.

      • Rowwdy

        You are clueless Powell. Try using the large plastic garbage bags for recycling. The bags will also be recycled. Better yet, invest in some large trash containers with lids.

        America has turned into one big dump (politicians included). People think nothing of polluting the ocean and earth with their garbage.

        @ BettyS…you are sick.

      • Patty

        I have been using plastic grocery bags for years for trash bags — why throw money away on plastic trash bags when plastic grocery bags work just fine? But did you notice the shopper in the picture is about to bag 4 large plastic containers she’s just purchased 7-Up, juice , etc. Pretty ironic considering the story is about banning plastic grocer bags because of how bag they are — Yes, Powell, this is idiotic.

      • J.V.

        For some reason, California has a predominance of people who elect politicians that see their role as rulers rather than public servants. And, apparently, those people like politicians who tell everyone what to do, who create bureaucracy and regulations in EVERYTHING both large and small. One day they make sweeping changes in energy policy, and the next day, fussing that they don’t have anything to do, they want to regulate…grocery bags. Why does California keep electing draconian, narcissistic, stooges who have to regulate everything at some point? Next, they’re probably going to require each resident to wear a collector that will regulate the amount of intestinal gas that can be passed on an hourly basis. We must have too many of them, because the seem to have SO much time on their hands deciding EXACTLY how all of the citizens should be regulated EVERY DAMN second.

    • zzz

      ME 2 ;-)

    • CalmDown

      Oversensitive BS. I grew up with reusable bags in Germany and “contamination” has never been an issue… I haven’t heard of anyone even thinking this might be a serious issue in 20+ years – until I moved here.
      So y’all calm down, invest 5$ in a bunch of reusable bags that you put in the trunk… and won’t have to deal with the damn waste anymore. And to go way overboard and make something as trivial as a reusable bag into a big deal over taking your freedoms away… I mean, really!


    • BettyS

      I’m all for that idea! With all the unwanted animals in shelters in CA right now, there’s your leather source!

    • mike

      OMG That’s just horrible. Why would you use bags with the fur removed? lol

    • Mike

      BettyS you have a great idea there. NOW THAT is a REAL recycling plan I could endorse. You could make some beautiful Kitten-Hyde bags!

    • Mike

      California government has lost its mind (I know this is just the latest BS they are up to). I have a question for you Debbie – why are you and others that live there not protesting to the government to make them just stop with all this nonsense??

    • Cato

      I’ve been there too. Santa Monica is just going to drive business to other towns not run by bag Nazis. Then this creates a weird “arms race” among municipalities, as they compare their bag policies the way guys compare the size of their manhood.

      Santa Monica councilmember: “We ban all plastic and charge for paper.”
      Los Angeles councilmember: “Oh yeah? We ban plastic AND paper. So there!”

      There will always be some redoubts of freedom, however, where they might allow bags of all shapes and sizes (diversity, anyone?). Then the state will step in and pass a statewide ban, to be followed by a federal and then a UN mandate.

      This is how our freedoms get drained away, people, one baggie at a time….

    • Frustrated in San Francisco

      To: CalmDown

      Trunk???? You don’t DRIVE to the grocery store, do you? And I certainly hope you are not contributing to suburban sprawl!!!

      I walk to my inner city grocery store and need a strong bag to carry my food up the hill to my kitchen. And if you are keeping your reusable bags in a trunk, I bet my carbon footprint is a fraction of yours.

      So until you start walking to your grocery store, I would appreciate it if you would stop telling people like me to calm down.

      We all deserve the freedom to make our own decisions about how we bring our food home.

      I mean, really!

      • The rest of the State

        I am glad the Bay area has been heard from. I really hope for the next big quake and hope the bay area falls into the ocean. Damn Democrat Trash. Keep voting democrat and electing liberal fools like Capt. Moonbeam our present Governor. I don’t want another movie star either. How about a canidate the will do the most good for the most people.

    • Jimmy

      That’s Switzerland this is America. We shouldn’t have to pay for it if the stores already provide them for free. It may seem like a little thing but it’s the principle of the matter and the next step then the next step as they erode away the freedoms that we cherish.

    • mike

      Bill – I want you to get together with everyone that you can find that agrees with you and MOVE to Switzerland. In THIS country a business can do business however it likes. If YOU don’t like that they provide plastic bags then YOU shop somewhere else. How about YOU stay out the concerns of OTHER PEOPLE and BUSINESS. If you think you can run a business better – PUT YOUR MONEY at risk and TRY. In the meantime stay the hell out of others life’s.

    • Matt

      I agree. I stopped using plastic bags about five years ago. It is not an issue. I like my reusable one better. They are stronger and the handles are better and some are insulated. Never going back.

    • AnimalFarm

      In parts of Switzerland (the liberal cities) they also have “trash police”, cops whose job is specifically to inspect and catch people who dispose of their trash in the wrong way. You’re not allowed to throw away glass, plastic, light bulbs, cloth (old clothes), cardboard… You’re required to go to the proper disposal place, where there are many different bins, one for each material, and you’d better pick the right one. Also, if you live in town X you are not allowed to purchase trash bags in town Y. There are specific trash bags sold, with the emblem and name of your town, they are very expensive and very small. You can’t just buy Glad. Here in the US, many people like me use grocery store bags for a variety of uses. I use them daily to empty out my bagless vacuum cleaner, clean out the litter box and various bedding for my pets, empty bathroom waste paper baskets, on and on. I would have to buy plastic trash bags in lieu of the super light, super thin grocery bags, which would make me waste money and use way more plastic. California is demented and anal, all their brilliant liberal ideas always have unintended consequences, this will be no exception.

    • AnimalFarm

      That would pi$$ off PETA… hehehe! Brilliant idea!

    • Jmac5280

      I would just add a $5 box of store brand plastic trash bags to my grocery list every week and make them use the kitchen trash bags to bag my groceries and then throw away the garbage bags after every trip.

      • jess

        Sounds good. Way to get back at em. And since money is no object, how bout you donate some to the recycling centers?

    • Perplexed

      Do you people realize how ‘nutty’ you appear to the rest of us?

      • gnubi

        Maybe, Perplexed. But your future looks the same as that of the boiled frog.

      • Mikey

        Your “the rest of us” in a very small but loud minority.
        The vast majority of us are upset about being nudged and pushed by this very small minority, who seem hell bent on pushing their agenda on the rest of us.

        Freedoms going away…drip…drip… where does it stop?

      • Elaine Connelly

        I use bags if I can remember them. But as far as ordering this kind of thing to take place. THAT SOUNDS LIKE CHINA OR RUSSIA. California, YUP, George Carlin was correct. CALIFORNIA IS GRANOLA LAND, WHAT ISN’T FRUITS AND NUTS IS FLAKES.

    • Joemama777

      “A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that … it gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.”
      — Milton Friedman

      I want my plastic bags, my incandescent light bulbs, my big car and not what you tell me I want . . . FREEDOM!!!

    • Rowwdy

      Have you heard of washing machines in CA? or how about hand washing them out?

      Recycling also helps. Not ont only do recycle centers keep people employed, keeping more plastic, cardboard, paper, glass, aluminum and tin out of the earth helps. But then, most people are too darn lazy to recycle.

      • Mary Wright

        Hey, lets RUN to the Third world status you liberal freaks want. What if I don’t have a washing machine? Or a house? What if I am homeless? Whatcha gonna do? Make me buy a bag and walk around with it pinned to my shirt or over my head all day? Insanity.

    • Caligula

      you’ll never get the blacks and latinos to use them. hell, they don’t even use trash cans. you think they care about the environment? LOL

      • m.payne

        we can do without your racist commments. I pay taxs I dont litter,and I dont like this just like whites or any other race. keep your stupid comments to yourself sir.

      • Mikey

        BINGO I think this might be the cause and reason most of the plastic bags are littered.
        Almost all littered bags I see are along inner city freeways and urban neighborhoods. Usually from fast food joints and liquor store purchases.

        This councilman is an obese slob that has no business trying to impose social engineering on anyone else.

    • Mikey

      Completely Agree.
      No law passed is going to stop people from littering plastic bags or anything else for that matter. Littering is a character defect.
      You cannot legislate changes in personal behavior
      The unintended consequences of this ridiculous plastic bag ban are already being felt in some areas of LA.
      The stores have to hire extra baggers and the lines slow to a crawl as people try and fit 5 bags worth of groceries into 4 reusable bags in an effort to avoid having to buy an additional bag or two.
      Trust me, this happens more than you would think.
      Also people tend to underbuy the amount of groceries they purchase in an effort to prevent “bag anxiety” at checkout
      And now each person now has different size bags which stresses the baggers immensely as they try to accommodate each customer.
      Then theres the fussy shopper that wants her/her grocery items sorted, just so, into their reusable bags, without regard to the line backup behind them..
      All of this just slows the checkout line down, makes shopping an unpleasant experience and increases staffing, which increases prices to the consumer.
      Not to mention the increased regulatory burden on the stores.
      Theres also the germs and mess encountered with reusable bags which others here have commented on.
      And what about those of us that already “reuse” the plastic bags the stores give out, as wastebasket liners, for hobbies, sorting parts, and for doggie do-do pickups etc???
      More Unintended consequences!
      Today it’s plastic bags,
      Tomorrow it’s going to be Styrofoam.
      Then plastic utensils …etc
      The liberal fascists won’t stop until they can inflict their warped belief system on the rest of us. The seem to enjoy with relish the pain and inconvenience they can put others through.
      ” You wouldn’t want to hurt Mother Earth now, would you”??,.. can be used to justify any type of intrusion into our lives. It’s a power trip and it’s not going to stop.
      You would think that LA would have much more important priorities to worry about, but apparently not.
      The authors of this proposed law should be forced to work in a grocery store bagging groceries for a week, to see the effects of this attempt at social engineering first hand.

    • Fedup

      What would you expect from the land of fruits and nuts! You may think they would have something a little more important to focus on – – -like keeping the state from going BK

      • Ctesibius

        Funny, but sadly-correct statement Fedup. California, the economic and creative giant, is so poorly run… it freaking sickens me. How the state and local governments can suck in all of those billions of tax dollars and still be facing BK is utterly unconscionable.

    • ImaSonofBeech

      @calmdown. Hmm Didn’t Germany just have a recent extremely deadly Ecoli outbreak they couldn’t trace? 10 variants of Ecoli have hit Germany in 2011 alone. Keep thinking you can’t cross contaminate your food, the world could do with a lot less liberals!

    • Peter

      Switzerland also provides plastic bags for free at the check out. They are small and thin (think slightly better than bags used in the produce section) but they are still free. The paper bags are .30CHF and the reusable recycles variety are either 1CHF or 2CHF depending on the size. Coop, Jemoli, and Globus all do this. They don’t force you to buy a bag or bring your own if you don’t want to unlike the socialist republic of california.

    • Airboene Ed


    • gah

      Why is everyone jumping down Bill’s throat? He’s making an observation. I can’t tell whether Bill supports the law or doesn’t just from that single comment and theory. There must be a lot of clairvoyant people out there who can.

      I agree if stores did that here people would bring their own bags too.


      It is obvious from the comments provided that the respondents who are in favor of the reusable bag do not buy a lot of groceries. We are a family of six and believe me we fill two full size carts when we journey to the market. From the pictures on the site it would appear that we would need 10 to 12 bags on average. God forbid that we run to the store and forget to pack an adequate stock of reuasable bags! Of course the same over the top eco-liberals who are in favor of the proposal would certainly be th first to point out that my wife and I have an irresponsible number of very large children and we should do our patriotic duty and cut down our consumption. Better idea- Just Move!

      • faamecanic

        Marty… your part of the problem. Family of 6!?! We must limit all families to 1 child…NO MORE.


        Another great socialist ideal

        (Note the above was said in all sarcasm)

        What isnt sarcasm is Im sure all of us working stiffs will now have to buy these recycleable bags for our “poor”. Plastic and paper bags = free… recycleable bags = $1 or more a bag.

    • teddysalad

      everyone should be killed, then landfills won’t be a problem anymore.

    • Sue Nahmi

      This proposed law is misguided. People that shop for groceries aren’t the ones littering plastic bags. Think about it. The grocery shopper has their groceries bagged then puts them in their car trunk and takes them home, where they are usually saved or used for other purposes.
      Most of the plastic bags ‘in the wild’ are from liquor store and/or fast food purchases. They are either tossed carelessly (with other trash and bottles) out a car window or while on foot once when no longer needed.
      To burden grocery stores with extra regulations to ‘solve’ this problem is just plain foolish and not grounded in reality.

    • William Patrick Bower

      Fly east for switzerland. You might use some of the money you stole from the conctration camp Jews… we fon;t do that in the USA either.

    • Paul

      Don’t worry, There are ways around this

      1) you can take a half dozen of the plastic bags from the produce isle, stick them in your pocket and use them at the register.

      2) you can also use the hand baskets that most grocery stores have, you can take them back to the store when you are finished loading your car, but I find it much easier to just through them out.

      3) baby seal skin makes an great bag also.

      I find baby seal skin makes a great bag.

    • alex

      Yes you can buy your own bags. Go to any office supply store or smart & final and ask for “thank you bags” a box of ’em is about $6.

      Cotton re-usable bags are great. A whole cottage industry and expression of individualism could come from making your own. Plastic/synthetics seem to be hygroscopic, that is, attract water and that’s where you might get yuckies. Stick to natural fibers.

      A free re-usable bag is as close as an extra pillowcase (they’re great) or that T-shirt you never wear, etc.

      The old paper bags were great – made the best school book covers EVER. Even used ’em in college.

    • Klaus

      Let’s start by banning plastic containers for soft drinks. Soft drinks are unhealthy and should not be consumed by any human being.

      People who want to ban plastic bags sound like they want to ban people. OK, if that’s how they want it, let’s start by banning Mexicans.

    • joe


    • dan

      You can have my plastic (or paper) bag when you pry it from my cold dead hand.

    • BigT

      I’m with you…they’ll have to take my plastic bag from my cold, dead hand. (Thanks Mr. Heston .) :o)

    • lance uppercutt

      LOL @ William Patrick Bower, you’re insane.

    • Bill Sundling

      They could make the leather bags from baby seals. It would be perfect.

    • Yirmin

      Better yet kill and skin liberals and use their skin to make trash bags… would be very environmentally friendly, not only do you have a reusable bag but you eliminate a nut job trying to tell the world how to save the planet while they do more harm buying their starbucks.

  • icecream

    These “geniuses never cease to amaze me.
    Wht can’t they just raise the price of everything in the store by just one penny. That will produce more than enough money to provide bags for their customers instead of charging ten cents for each bag..
    Purchasing the store’s reusable bags force the consumer to pay to advertise for the store.

    • Emerson

      It has nothing to do with money. It’s about banning anything that can become litter. It’s about creating utopia – by that I mean the original meaning of the impossible “No place”. It’s a cult for leftists that involves the death of billions in order to lighten the load on Gaia, a group that doesn’t include themselves.

      • BlueCollarCritic

        I wish it were just about that emerson but its actually about power and control at every level and this is just one brick in the tower of power that government is constructing.

      • Yukiko

        The countryside will be covered in reusable and fiber bags.

    • Really?

      You do realize that you are already paying for “free” plastic bags through higher store prices. Furthermore, you are paying for 2-3% in credit card fees that the stores have to pay to the CC companies… again through higher in-store prices.

      It’s self-inflicted by uninformed customers here, many of whom believe convenience doesn’t come at a price… so who’s the “genius” now?

      • Ralph

        And you are paying for the parking lot in the price of food. So are the poor ones who can’t afford a car and ride the bus!

      • Mike

        Really? – Are you trying to say that the stores in question are somehow more special than the stores anywhere else? What are you talking about with this self-inflicted nonsense? and you think that the stores really charge so much more for the plastic bags? I think that you need to get YOUR OWN HOUSE in order before you go worrying about anybody else. You HOLIER THAN THOU types are ruining our country. Why not put the joint down and spend some time doing new things, you are so completely out of touch. It makes me sick.

      • faamecanic

        So I guess that means if they no longer offer plastic or paper, prices will go down proportionally with the cost no longer incurred (plus the profit they make selling these reusable bags)?

        Not likely….

      • Joanna

        So now we are going to have to pay an even HIGHER price if we want paper bags…you think businesses are going to lower their prices now because they won’t have to supply plastic? I don’t think so! So yes, now we will still be paying the same prices with NO convenience, sounds great!

        By the way, this NEVER would have passed if the people would have been able to vote on it, which is why the City Council passed it behind the scenes–since there are no revenues, no vote is needed. SUPER SHADY! I can’t wait to get out of California.

  • J.H.

    Just another way that the “Special Interest” groups are taking away another way of life.

  • Rick

    What are tourists suppose to do, bring their bags with them from another state??

    • haffa brane

      like all supposed “green” initiatives, has anyone considered the amount of plastic that it takes to create one of the reusable bags v. the lifespan of the bag. seems to me that the seams rip apart rendering the bag useless after usually only after a few uses. i’m not so sure that using the disposable plastic bags isn’t a greener alternative in the long run.

      just like compact fluorescent bulbs, what on the surface seems to be a better alternative ends up being far worse for the environment.

      • Chris

        As with 99% of all environmental initiatives, it has little or nothing to do with actually helping the environment. It’s all about someone showing off their environmental “street-cred.” Why do you think that hybrid cars that look like normal cars sell so poorly, while the ugly-as-sin Prius sells so well? It’s because the Prius “looks” like a hybrid. After all, what’s the point of driving a hybrid if other people don’t see that you’re driving a hybrid? Environmentalism is 99% appearence and 1% meaningful action.

  • Rick

    The environmentalists forced us into using plastic in the first place, instead of the recyclable paper we were using to begin with!!

    • James

      Rick, Hit the nail on the head. I remember when that happened and that paper bags were destroying the forests we were told… Apparently Stupidity has come full circle with the left.

    • mike

      Hey Rick – maybe reusable bags wouldn’t be that bad -IF- the store provides you with “disposable plastic liners” that you can get each time you visit the store. And these disposable liners should be strong enough that if by chance you don’t have your reusable bag with you they can support the groceries on their own. This way everybody is happy. This would be a total win-win.

      • ImaSOB

        What is the difference? Just call the current plastic bags a “Disposable Liner”. No need to change anything but the name of the bag.

  • Arod

    plastic I can kinda understand but paper is just stupid. Paper bags degrade pretty fast and it is A renewable resorce. This is what happens when special interest groups like tree huggers get taken seriously. I wonder how many more jobs will be lost if the no paper or plastic fad catches on around the country.

    • Mikey

      Can’t we just legalize the commercial usage of hemp? Why do we need to smoke it? Paint is legal for all types of uses but it is still illegal to huff it.

    • Avid Deehare

      Dear Karen,

      Hemp is not Marijuana. It’s a different but related plant that does not contain the psycho-active substance, THC. Get your facts straight.

    • Karen

      Apparently you get off on calling people names. You must have a very petite one so you attack others because you are so small. Do you have a big truck too?

      And I definitely will never share my premium stash with you.

  • Karen

    I stopped buying anything in the stores that don’t provide bags. Santa Monica that means you. I reuse my bags and don’t litter. Why don’t we enforce litter laws instead? You can help too. When I see someone drop garbage on the ground, I pick it up and hand it to them and sweetly say – sir/madame – you dropped this – with a smile on my face because I’m so helpful. Most people go find the trashcan after that.

    • AG

      It’s not just about litter. Millions of barrels of oil are used to produce these single-use bags every year.

      • matty

        whats your point ? Millions of sperm cells were used to produce you, look what that got us. Don’t you have a tree to hug or something

      • Rick McCarthy

        The environmentalists are the ones who forced people away from paper, to use plastic instead!!

      • icecream

        Better quality paper bags will work. Not many barrels of oil in them.

      • Arod

        Not paper and it’s renewable. First we had to save the trees eventhough they are a renewable resource and now you’re saying we need to save the oil. Whats your solution? Sould we carry things from the store in our arms. Cloth bags are made from both wood prducts and plastic products and use oil to make. They don’t last forever either.

      • Matt

        Millions of barrels of oil are NOT used every year to make plastic bags. Most plastic bags are made of recycled plastid to begin with and are recyclable as well. Plastic dummy is also used to make Child incubators, Neck braces, IV tubes. It has this awesome ability to be sterile upon creation and durable enough to be used in various forms and not degrade completely when sitting around.

        If you don’t like plastic than just say you don’t like Hospitals as well and prefer people die from unnecessary infections. Plastic is in the airbag of your car and the seatbelt.

        It’s only single use if you use it only one right?

      • Tom Wilson

        Wrong. Plastic is a by product of producing oil and outlawing plastic bags won’t increase or decrease oil production one drop. Plastic is made out of whats left of crude oil after it’s been refined. Get it?

      • Desert Rat

        Actually these bags are made of a refinery waste product that was burned before, and probably will be again when not used for bags. They could of been made of a corn-based material that degrades quickly. Who benefits from this ban? Who makes the replacement bags? What about the dangerous materials in them, like lead? It’s always about the money.

      • mike

        AG – Do you realize how foolish your argument is? You do know that these plastic bags are recyclable right? So the bags are reused for something else anyway. Whats the big deal?

      • Jmac5280

        Nothing cries hypocrite like a liberal driving in a SMART car with a shell that is made COMPLETELY from PETROLEUM :)

      • Sue Nahmi

        “Millions of barrels of oil” ….um…I call: B U L L S H ! T

      • faamecanic

        And how much petrolium is used in the factories to make these re-usable bags??

        Oh I forgot…they are all made in Indonesia with child labor. The put the little tykes in hamster wheels and dangle a ham and cheese sandwich in from of them to make them run to generate the power needed for all the sewing machines that little old Indonesian ladies sit at of 19 hours a day, 7 days a week. I bet Pelosi owns this company too!!

      • sigh - another political ploy

        faamecanic – The put the little tykes in hamster wheels and dangle a ham and cheese sandwich in from of them to make them run to generate the power needed for all the sewing machines that little old Indonesian ladies sit at of 19 hours a day, 7 days a week. I bet Pelosi owns this company too!!

        Better to make that a Turkey Sandwich what with Indonesia being a Muslim country and the unlikeliness of the tykes being tempted by ham…

  • m.payne

    when raw meat juice seeps into the bag,and you use that same bag to the next time you shop for your veggies. What do you think will happen? These bags dont last forever. It sounds like another way to tax us further.

    • Barry Burgess

      A good point! An even better one is all of the contaminants that get introduced into the carts and checkout lanes from these bags that have been “out and about”. You may be careful in your bag use, but many aren’t and they set the bar for all. This is a factor that never occurred with single use bags at the point if sale.

  • Iatola

    Government regulation has run amok. Not only can they control what bags you use but also whether you have medical insurance, what technology you use, how you use your internet and other communications, where you work, how many hours you work, what you eat, what you drink, when you die, etc. If you think I’m wrong, pay attention to all the little nuances you come across as you attempt to live “your” life. We are truly not free anymore.

    • DonM

      There are any number of small communities in East LA that would be pleased to give you a bag with your purchases. We would be pleased to get the sales tax money too. Let LA see what happens to their sales tax revenue when people buy elsewhere, and property tax revenue when the stores go out of business.

  • Rick McCarthy

    Does this mean there won’t be any plastic bags for vegetables/fruit??!?! What do we do for pinto beans, or nuts???

  • icecream

    Then have the stores issue reusable/recyclyble bags.

  • icecream

    I guess we have to use our pockets !!!

    • Tom Wilson

      Nah. That’s what oversized baggy pants are for.

  • Ashlee

    They already have done this in Long Beach, but you at least have the option to buy a paper back for $.10–so if you forget your reusable bag you have something to carry groceries out in. I actually saw someone spend over $750 at Target and have to buy bags!!!

  • Mark the Bagger

    As this is still a somewhat free country, you can use the type of bag that suits your political concerns and the rest of us can use what we want. I own and use reusable bags, but sometimes I forget them at home. I don’t feel like carrying my groceries home in my arms, dropping them along the way.

  • Augy

    Oh God. Please do it. I live in Miami. This will not affect me at all, except that it will crack me up. Please do it.

    • ewrtwer

      In spirit I agree with you, however, everytime these idiots are legitimized and made to feel justified by lack of opposition (silence is considered consent) this type of stupidity becomes more normalized. Why do you think Pols have passed stupid legislation like the lightbulb law? becasue they only hear these idiots howling and assume everyone out here wanst that type of lunacy enacted. Pols are machines they dispense legislation based on how much and what you give them. People are desperate for jobs – they hear that and think they need to rpovide them to keep theirs. They skip right over cause and effect and go directly to “meet the need” without stopping to think what they’re doing or what the repurcussion will be. It’s very irrseponsible and very devious of the Lefty granola types

  • baybrewer

    Not that much oil,actually.A single cross country jet flight burns much more.

    • Klaus

      Al Gore’s private jet has a bigger carbon footprint than all our plastic bags put together.

    • willieinSFO

      A single flight by Moochelle uses more.

  • slipperyOne

    Dear Ammie, plastic bags are made from a waste by-product of making natural gas. You are a classic uninformed liberal dimwit (sorry!), but now the waste product will simply be “flared-off” or burnt. While the gas used to go to solid bags, it will now be a greenhouse gas, i.e., CO2. Another left-leaning effort that has completely unintended consequences. Absolutely typical.

    Do your homework before you open your mouth!

    • Steve Roberts

      Not a problem Libs will simply propose banning production of natural gas. Iit will be good for the it would inconvenience Americans even more. It seems so obvious.

    • jaline

      We used to pass by a refinery on the way home (1950’s to 1970’s). They did “flare-off” the gases. It was like a giant candle, every night. Liberals know not of what they speak most of the time. They’ve just bought into the claptrap spouted on the nightly news.

  • Enzo

    People in LA are lunatics. Your whole state is going down hill and you are worried about paper or plastic bags? You’re playing in the orchestra while the ship sinks. lol. What a bunch of fools. You deserve to go down hill for the morons you elect. Enjoy.

    • Klaus

      As our economy continues its deliberate implosion caused by the central bankers, we won’t need any bags. They can just put the groceries in the shopping carts we’ll all be living in.

      • Retired SOF guy

        What? Obama is a central banker? I thought he was a half-black socialist. I can’t keep up.

      • Sue Nahmi

        The “central bankers” as you call them, have very little to do with the imploding economy.
        You need to thank Mr. 0bama and his unelected czars for implementing misguided socialist policies on the economy which is causing the recession to lengthen
        Their policies have over regulated business (the job creators) as well as causing uncertainty in the markets with the monstrosity known as 0bamacare.

        But “central bankers” make for a better class warfare whipping boy.

        You need to start thinking for yourself and stop getting your news and information from George Soros controlled news outlets.

      • Sue Nahmi

        The “central bankers” as you call them, have very little to do with the imploding economy.
        You need to thank Mr. 0bama and his unelected czars for implementing misguided socialist policies on the economy which is causing the recession to lengthen
        Their policies have over regulated business (the job creators) as well as causing uncertainty in the markets with the monstrosity known as 0bamacare.

        But “central bankers” make for a better class warfare whipping boy.

        You need to start thinking for yourself and stop getting your news and information from George Soros controlled news outlets.

    • swhitS

      @Sue Nahmi “You need to start thinking for yourself and stop getting your news and information from George Soros controlled news outlets”
      LMAO .Who do you think Obama is working for but the – Banksters and who controls the banksters but Soros. Get your facts straight even if you think it is a bunch of doo. But hey, who did Obama bailout and who is controlling what is in this article?

      • Sue Nahmi

        @swhitS… well you’re partly right, 0bama IS working at the behest of George Soros, who controls much of our media.
        As far as the bankers (“banksters” as you cleverly call them) receiving “bailouts”.. Who? Name some banks that received “bailouts”
        Several banks were made “TRAP”(TARP) L O A N S, that now have almost all been paid back (with interest I might add).
        No bank was just “given” bailout monies.
        That’s not how the banking system works.
        What? You would have preferred a complete collapse of our banking system along with all the little guys/gals (you and me) monies instead of providing them a TRAP cushion?
        TRAP wasn’t the best idea in the world, but it was necessary to shore up the banking system after the housing and RE bubble burst.
        And why the housing bubble burst has mostly to do with lack of oversight , (Bawney Fwank, Chris all) and liberal politicians/race hustlers putting pressure on these same large banks to make risky loans to people that couldn’t afford them. And some good old fashioned greed.
        And when enough of them defaulted….
        We are still bailing out (an actual bailout) Fannie & Freddie to this day, to the tune of 100s of billions.
        Yet it’s the bankers you seem obsessed with, that paid their TRAP loans back.

  • WeThePeople

    “reusable or fiber bags”, what a joke.

    this subject has been studied from all sides, and ALL results show that these “Reusable” bags are worse for the environment and the economy that both plastic “one time” or paper bags.

    These laws are a torment of the population by small special interest groups who are bent on destroying both business and the ecology. Their ignorance to the “whole picture” is astounding, and their reluctance to heed the advice and warnings of numerous studies showing that they are wrong is beyond belief.

    If each “one time” paper or plastic bag is used twice, the economy and ecology is much better off.

    Study and learn, or you will be bound to duplicate the failures of the past.

    • mike

      Sounds to me that California is run by a bunch of Cat-Ladies who have nothing else to do with their pent-up anger other than to find new ways to annoy. I think the people in Cali need to clean house at election time and start to get concerned with their economy. Let the cat-ladies deal with each other, but keep them out of office.

  • Mikey

    Says the person typing on a keyboard made out of plastic.

    • mudd

      excuse me, my keys are made out of 100% elephant ivory.

  • Dean

    Commie land. Chinafornia. How will all the poor illegals deal with these new racist laws. Of course they don’t have the extra money for reusable bags.

  • vick

    It’s taken me almost 2 years to get used to remember to bring my own bags to shop. Now its a habit – I don’t leave home without them. Paper bags are useless if you need to take city transit and its raining out. Prior to this, I was using the store bags, and getting them to double bag stuff as the bags were too thin.

    So, one day as I noticed the pile getting larger, I went thru them all, ( had them all tightly packed into other bags) and literally filled my hallway about 3 – 4 feet high, and about 7 feet in length – full of bags! I took a picture – my cat was sitting in the middle of this mountain, covered. That was the eye opening moment. I now have several resuable bags and have no doubts saved myself from taking home hundreds more in the last 2 years… every little bit counts!

    Start today, find out what bags you would use, how easy are they to carry when full – some of us short folks don’t like the bags with super long handles – live and learn. It’s not as bad as one might think :)

    • Marc M

      It’s fantastic that you have bought into this… if it makes you happy then by all means go ahead.

      It should not however be FORCED on people or on businesses.

      For one, I DESPISE people who use these bags. It takes like 3x the amount of time to checkout when people use these. They don’t stay open, they aren’t convenient and quick to fill.

      People already recyle these bags… not using them will NOT accomplish anything.

      Government should have no say in what bags we use and if you think they should then that is your mental disorder, not mine.

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      • drcldh

        My question is, what if I end up buying more than what will fit into whatever reusable handle bags I have to bring with me? Do I leave part of my purchase at the store or have the clerk remove the items from my total, irritating the shoppers behind me because my purchase is taking so much time? Do I run over to another aisle and buy more reusable bags that I don’t have room to store at my house anyway? I’m really getting tired of the government crawling up my keister with a microscope and telling what, when, why, and how I can do things…

    • Karen

      I’m with Marc and I can not understand why you did not re-use your plastic bags. I shop all the time and have lots of bags. I have nowhere the number of bag you had. I use them to line small garbage cans, laundry that I pre-soaked. They are very useful and I don’t litter.

  • Frank

    It is good to know that Los Angeles has no major problems and that the LA politicians have plenty of time to spend on these types of issues

  • Sam

    Take a chill pill and get your facts straight.

  • Rogher Simon

    You liberals have become that which you used to protest against in the 60’s. Congratulations. Nixon would be proud.

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