LOS ANGELES (AP) — Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca has questioned the civil rights of illegal immigrants in radio remarks that have riled immigrant advocates.

Baca said in an interview on KCRW radio Thursday that illegal immigrants basically are not subject to the kinds of civil rights protections Americans are in his defense of a federal program that checks the immigration status of arrestees.

He says federal policy should decide whether someone should be deported if they haven’t been convicted of a crime.

Baca’s comments come as some lawmakers and law enforcement officials say the Immigration and Customs Enforcement program called Secure Communities threatens to erode immigrants’ trust in police.

Baca says his office has not received such complaints.

Local immigrant advocates have criticized the remarks and defended illegal immigrants’ civil rights.

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Comments (58)
  1. Tax Payer says:

    He is right they have broken the law , they have no civil rights, sick of paying for theier food and schools and health.

    1. icecream says:

      Ans sick of paying for their welfare, section-8 housing, their education in our schools, their overcrowding our jails and prisons, etc ………

      1. mike says:

        Can we decide where our tax dollars go? If not get rid of the immigrants. Why should I have pay for them. These politicians are out of control. They keep on cutting services from me but i still have pay all of my taxes with talks of of raising them. What if the middle class Americans stop paying????

    2. Saber 1 says:

      He is tired of going to funerals of officers and deputies murdered in the line of duty. Since all of these bottom feeding ILLEGAL ALIENS have invaded the USA like roaches, crime , diseases, hourly pay going down, this Country has seen it going in to the toilet. ILLEGAL ALIENS are hell bent on making our streets and government to look like theirs. Let’s take back our Country before these bottom feeding disease ridding third world toilet people ruin the rest of it.

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  3. Joe American says:

    You DO NOT have the right to be here illegally.
    You have no rights at all.
    You go Baca !!!

    1. mike says:

      Thank god. he is on to something. Yeah i agree Beck is weak. Get rid of him and let Baca run the LAPD. The brown trash has got to go.

  4. c-gas says:

    Right on, Lee Baca. I wish Chief Charlie Beck had some balls. These immigrant rights groups are a joke. If people don’t like the laws of the land they come to, go back to the country you came from. Unfortunately, society has allowed “protesting” whenever someone doesn’t get what they want.

  5. DAVID says:

    FINALLY SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE . GO BACA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. icecream says:

    Finally someone with the guts to take a stand for the citizens and LAWFUL residents herre.
    Go for it, Sheriff Baca…You’re the man !!!!!!!

  7. robots says:

    Thank you Sheriff Baca. Once they have stepped foot on American soil, they have broken the law. Obviously, it is a good practice for America to allow immigration into the United States. However, not at the immigrants free will. It should be allowed at the discretion of American written policies voted on by the American people. The penalty for entering this country illegally should be immediate deportation. The violator and any offspring they may have produced while living here illegally should be sent back and billed for the labor to take them to the border. A heavy fine for the felony they committed against our country should also be imposed. I would be willing to vote on a minimum fine of $12,000 for every year they were here per adult, and $6,000 per child. They should be photographed, finger printed and a DNA sample taken if caught being here illegally. The Federal government of the United States is so soft on illegal immigration. Why? Why don’t they stop it themselves or allow the states to handle the massive problem their own way? We need answers and people like the great Jan Brewer and the sheriff in Arizona, and now it looks like Sheriff Baca. Please stay tough on this illegal activity that is costing everyone in your family and neighborhoods a lot. And not just money!

    1. Ron says:

      GO SHERIFF BACA. They have NO Civil Rights. Keep up the good work.

  8. haha says:

    Get used to it, we will always have illegal immigrants……it’s what our country was founded on.

    1. mike says:

      We know they will always be around. we just want them to have to pay into the system instead of rapping it and expecting more, which should be a crime in it’s self

    2. Borsia Novak says:

      The country was not founded on illegal immigration it is a country of immigrants,,, legal immigrants.
      Now in the present it is overpopulated and underemployed the time for immigration has passed.

    3. Jeff says:

      Dear idiot aka “haha”,
      Read a history book before you speak. Something tells me you’re an anchor baby, and your parents are lazy, good for nothing mooches. Go f u k yourself.

  9. mister s says:

    Mayor Baca……. has a nice ring to it.

    1. marty says:

      I’ll vote for that.

      1. Saber 1 says:

        So will I.

    2. Bill Bevington says:

      How about President Baca? I would vote for that.

  10. MsKarenL says:

    Illegal immigrants should be allowed the basic integrity of human rights – but, they are not uniformly entitled to civil rights afforded under the constitution to all United States citizens..

  11. Astonished says:

    I totally agree! Go Sheriff Baca! It’s about time someone said it! Do you think that any American caught in Mexico illegally would be given any form of civil rights? NOT IN THIS LIFETIME!!

    Go ahead and deport her! She needs to go back to her country. She can support civil rights there!

    1. Borsia Novak says:

      Only after you serve time and pay huge fines. That is if you are American; enter Mexico from the south and you will be beaten robbed and raped then deported.

  12. Astonished says:

    “. .some lawmakers and law enforcement officials say the Immigration and Customs Enforcement program called Secure Communities threatens to erode immigrants’ trust in police.”

    GOD FORBID! I’d rather have secure boarders than illegals who “trust” our police. And if you really do believe that they trust any police officer, being as they are here ILLEGALLY, I have a bridge I’ll sell you cheap. Even comes with numbered parts.

  13. soldierspy says:

    Well now i know why they made all the fema camps with the creamatoriums and stacks of millions of black plastic coffin liners.Whew!Was a little worried it was for when martial law was put into effect.Well then,lets fire up the furnace and start rounding them up.

  14. isabel says:

    You people are incredible. No one, not even illegal immigrants, should be denied their basic civil rights. “Tired of paying for their welfare….no wonder this state is in the condition it is in.” Settle down. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and do some research rather than jumping on a bandwagon of hate. Scapegoating…alive and well in the USA.

    1. Robots says:

      You are incredible. I am too disgusted with you to even comment back to you with any dignified statements.

      1. Karen says:

        I agree with you Robots. Senorita Isabel is all talk – full of hot air and she makes zero sense.

    2. Ron says:

      isabel, illegal immigrants come across the border and have a baby. The baby becomes legal. Now who pays for the baby’s care, schooling, food, etc. Not the illegal parents, it is WE TAXPAYERS. Now multiply that by thousands or more. How is that just? NO more free rides.

      The only Kool-Aid drinker is YOU, so do some research and LOGICAL thinking yourself.

  15. Barry says:

    Wow. The hatred. Its amazing, really. How many of you have done a thorough background check on your families to ensure that your relatives who immigrated to the U.S. immigrated legally? Hmmm, I’m going to guess few to none of you. Before you start spewing hatred, do your research. You’ll be surprised.
    I’d also like to add that I knew two girls in high school that were illegal – one was an illegal from the UK, the other an illegal from Greece. Go figure.

    1. is says:

      yeah…i know a bunch of people from Europe who are here illegally…no one questions them because, well….no one knows! Plus, they’re from Europe and super cool! Crazy. 🙂

      1. Robots says:

        Are you taking into account what the problem of illegal immigration costs the people, cities, counties and states in your liberal views and nonsensical statements? Deport the illegal immigrants and all their offspring today! Both sets of my grandparents immigrated into this country legally, f you very much.

      2. Marty says:

        Did these people you know from europe run to the welfair office as soon as they got here? Problly not.

    2. Borsia Novak says:

      I know several illegal Australians, so what? He isn’t giving them any more rights than illegals from other countries.
      Learn to read; he says that illegals have no rights he doesn’t specify which illegals.

    3. Robots says:

      Barry, the comment below was intended for you, please read it, then move to a different country, maybe a socialist country would be more to your liking…

    4. Ron says:

      Barry, WE are paying the TAXES. They are not.

  16. Borsia Novak says:

    Go Baca round up and deport ALL illegals regardless of nationality!
    If you are here illegally you have NO rights you ARE a criminal!
    Its time to go after the employers as well. No jobs, no money, no security, no free education, no free ride = no illegals.
    If they come back put them on labor gangs for a year then throw them out again.

  17. barry says:

    You’re right, Borsia, he didn’t. But if you read the comments on this board, you’d see that most of the comments on here are anti-Latino. Maybe you’re the one who needs to learn to read.

  18. Ping Kee Ang says:

    “Civil Rights”, what is it actually ? The dictionary defines it as: ” RIGHTS GUARANTEED TO AN INDIVIDUAL BY VIRTUE OF CITIZENSHIP.” Folks,
    there it goes. Translate that to any other language that you speak and
    you will get the same meaning., plani and simple. The misunderstanding
    and/or misinterpretation of the termt lies on whose agenda one is pursuing
    to promote. For the illegal alliens coming to a foreign country, that is not what
    it is supposed to be. For the politicians aspiring to perpetuate in power, it varies
    on where the political wind blows. For the statesmen and the constitutionalists,
    it means what it truly mean .For the immigration advocates whose purpose is
    to enhance their personal image as defenders of humanity, it does not matter
    whatsoever what it truly means.
    It is ironic that there are so many so-called intliigent people out there who would
    like to interpret the meaning of the term in a way that best suit their agenda, and not in accordance with the true and correct tenets embodied in its true meaning.
    I am not an admiring fan of Sheriff Lee Baca, but in the context of his statement, I bow to his boldness 100% percent. Keep It Up Sheriff !!!!

  19. Karen says:

    We should elect Baca to be MAYOR. Move out Villaraigosa and Raza.

    Welcome Sheriff Baca. Give your buddy Sheriff Joe Arpaio a call.

    You two should compare notes.

    1. Trisha says:

      I agree completely!

  20. rjsmitty says:

    We have failed in protecting the American citizen in regards to illegal immigration. Back in 1986 Ragan let 3 million illegal aliens get amnesty through what was called IRCA 1986. With the promise to secure the boarder and control illegal immigration. Well , we know what happened after that nothing. The flow of illegal immigration only got worse . Then NAFTA was one of President Clinton’s inventions. It went into effect January 1, 1994. It stands for North American Free Trade Agreement. The idea was to improve trade and income in Mexico. NAFTA was also sold with the idea that this would help with illegal immigration by sending or creating more jobs in Mexico. Well, we know what happen here besides sending millions and millions of jobs over seas since the creation of NAFTA it did nothing to reduce the flow of illegal immigration. In 1996 Clinton let 7 million illegal aliens have amnesty under the IIRIRA 1996 , with the promise to secure the border and get illegal immigration under control . Once again we know what happen here also . The Clinton administration only encouraged the people from other countries to come here illegally by giving the signal that if you get here you to will be a citizen after a few years .. That is why we can not have any more amnesty for illegal’s aliens or there children and would argue that if illegal’s bring there children over the border this should be another criminal offense under child endangerment charges.

  21. blind justice says:

    does KNX realize that they are allowing a platform and voice to a convict, how come my neighbors cuz don’t get a platform he only tried to walk away with some vodka at the local liquor store , not like he lied and cheated, excuse me who’s sherrif baca ? not sure the sherrif dept has heard of anyone by that name

  22. MADE IN THE USA says:

    Action speaks louder than words. Talk is cheap…DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT MR> BACA. How about publishing the names and addresses on the internet for the people you are deporting ?? Then we can monitor just what you are cleaning up.

  23. joe says:

    There are simply not enough resources to deport all these illegals, they number into the millions. Baca is fighting a losing battle here. I do not know what the answer is but if we really wanted to secure the borders as the strongest nation in the world I am sure we could have stopped a bunch of unarmed illegals with our resources but the US and the legal citizens here have employed them and used them for cheap labor so we have the problem we do now.

    1. robots says:

      Vote me into office, I will fix the illegal problem… And the public sector union problem. And a few more injustices being perpetrated against the American public by the very government they employ….

    2. Ron says:

      More voters for Democrats and UNION dues payers, just NOT taxpayers. That is also why they are ALLOWED to cross the border. And the ACLU and immigrant advocates prevent us from checking their legal status. So it is very difficult to deport them.

  24. shame on you says:

    There once lived a wise man who blamed a race for all of his countries shortcomings. He convinced his fellow man that all who shared the color of his skin were superior to those who did not. Before you knew it, his whole country was by his side. After obtaining great power, this man ordered one of the worst genocides our planet has ever faced. His name was Hitler. To all of those here who share his ideas I say SHAME ON YOU. God will judge you all someday.

    1. Robots says:

      How are our illegal immigration problems parallel with Hitler? Shame on you for warping the issue to think our problem is race related. The core of the problem is economic and quality of life for those of us who pay the taxes and trying to raise our families. Keep your perspective clear and your mind open. Not to mention that millions of people from all over the world have been immigrating legally since our inception. So get off of your liberal high horse and dig deeper and stop being such a drone! I do appreciate your participation though, thank you. You are heading in the right direction if you felt it necessary to comment somewhere on current events concerning your community. D

    2. Ron says:

      We do not have to blame a specific race(although the bulk of our illegal immigrants come from south of our border). We blame the ILLEGALITY of the specific person’s presence in our country.

      THAT is VERY DIFFERENT than HITLER. There is NO similarity. There is NO genocide.

      Many churches conceal the illegals. So perhaps they are NOT law abiding organizations and they practice criminal acts, that they justify by humanity. So don’t have, a holier then thou attitude.

  25. Barry says:

    Apparently Robots needs to be educated to what the Holocaust was about. Shame on you did an excellent job summarizing the Hitler doctrine.
    Robots also needs an education regarding socialism. Anyone who has taken an introduction to political science class would know that the US is a socialist country, just not to the extent that most of the rest of the world is. The federal government still owns a majority of Ally Financial, still holds stakes in General Motors, Chrysler, AIG among other companies. Let’s not forget Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and unemployment insurance. Use any of those products or services? Probably. Thank your socialist government for that.

    1. Robots says:

      Your Barryness, That this great country is becoming more socialist by the minute is exactly my point. My comments on that very point can be found on many articles found here on yahoo. Hitler had a personal vendetta against a entire race of people based on his hatred of a select few who treated him less than he thought he was entitled. Hitlers issues are in no way comparable to my issue with illegal immigration. I said immigration is good for America. God knows the talent of the American worker is a diminishing by the generation. It is vital that immigration be handled with the utmost scrutiny, fairness and in the best interest of this country. Not at the cost of the American quality of life I/we have been paying taxes for. Don’t get me started on government waste and current policies. And you forgot to mention that we are printing tons of fake money daily and raising the debt ceiling and blah blah blah. Halting illegals would just barely get the ball rolling in the right direction. Next in line would be public sector unions, then on to Social security and Medicare, both of which should be abandoned. Shall I go on…. And thanks to you as well Barry for participating in your society. Your opinions are always welcomed and appreciated… Doug

  26. luwhat says:

    hahahhahah so funny, of course we don’t have the money to deport them there has to meet in the middle. first take any that have comited crimes out take the case in a lot of little pools not ONE BIG ONE. We are looking at this like kick them all arrest them all spit on them all .THE ONES WHO HAVE FAMILY AND HAVE STABLE LIFE LET THEM PAY MONEY. THEN TAX THEM THEY ARE WILLING TO BUY THERE WAY IN imagine add the number 5,000 per mom and pops no children that is a lot for the states. And if you want segregation after that then a least they get to stay right? brown toilets right? back of the bus right?sorry folks but humans have lost there way ones again with 2012 coming its no wonder there is a question of where the human race is going?

  27. Ali Alexander says:

    Illegal aliens do not have “civil” rights. Civil rights, by definition, belong only to CITIZENS of a country. We have some rights we extend to literally everyone, such as due process, but illegal aliens do not have even the right to BE in this country, which subsumes all other rights.

  28. America says:

    All these hate comments make me disgusted of being an American. Every single one of you are ignorant and are a bunch of babies. You think immigrants are taking your jobs? Get on a bus, take your ass to the farms and get too work. Not a single one of you have the guts or drive to do it. I would love to see unemployment run out and for all of you lazy haters to sit and wonder what to do. That’s the difference between you racist trash and Immigrants. An immigrant will go where there is work and work at what ever is available. You racist trash will cry and moan that they can’t find a job and then complain that the government isn’t doing enough for you all the while there are plenty of jobs, just not the ones you are willing to do. Immigrants pay Millions in taxes and all that money pays for your ignorant trash unemployment checks. How disgusting you all are. Latinos were in this land way before your ancestors got on their boats to come here illegally and take lands that were not theirs to take. God did not make borders, ignorant and greedy white people did. Instead of recognizing there is a problem that can be solved by reaching a middle ground, no, all you bigots want to burn these people at the stake. You should be angry at the government for not finding a solution that benefits all. You should be in favor of immigration reform, people should not have to wait up to 40 years to come to this country legally. Just because the laws are what they are doesn’t mean they shouldn’t or can’t be changed. This country should end prohibition, that alone would solve all kinds of trouble, in Mexico, at the border, and here. Millions in money saved that is now going to the prison system, Millions of more money in taxes. Oh but that’s right, we are a country of laws that should not be changed, so all you pot smoking trash will just have to just wait your turn to get arrested and sent to prison. How small minded you all are. Don’t bother commenting…I will not see it.

    1. Jon says:

      Why don’t you go f**k yourself! I have friends in constuction,and driving jobs and it’s always why can I hire you when I can hire 5 mexicans for the same price.You’re the one who’s racist.I watched my neighborhood turn into a 3rd world s**t-hole in the early 80s,go to any emergency room or welfare office or WIC

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